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jansing and we are watching two major stories on capitol hill right now and we're going to learn a lot more about both of them. the president will deliver an address on his new budget, 11:00 a.m. eastern. his proposals are already under fire for both the right and the left. p and speaker john boehner already dismissed the plan calling it no way to lead. and here's congress map paul ryan. >> because the status quo is not working too well. we have massive deficits, a crushing debt. a slow economy, high poverty rates. next hour we're also expecting senators joe manchin and paul toomey to announce they have a deal on background checks. they worked all night long to put the wheels in motion. votes could come on thursday. the bottom line is we have the mothers and fathers of the
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victims from connecticut here on capitol hill and when they look a senator in the eye and say i need action, my child's life means something and you must do something. that is so powerful and so meaningful, i think it's going to shift the debate. >> i want to bring in t-- les fr sure than the president wanted, no universal background checks. >> it's a lot less than what the president wanted. if you go back to the new town shooting, limits on high capacity magazines, you heard manchin sketch out that this background checks deal, would
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not include universal background checks, it would close the loophole of gun shows. >> joe biden was outraged over the threat of a filibuster, let me play that for you. >> tragedy that traumatized the nation and caught the attention of the entire world and all of the thinking and the debate and the discussion with overwhelming majorities of the american people thinking that the proposals that the president put forward make absolute sense, the climax of this tragedy could be we're not even going to get a vote? >> it does seem there are enough republican senator who is say they will not filibuster, but ted cruise who said he would filibuster said there was a vote at 9:30, which he cancelled. >> i could not disagree more with my friend ken's assessment
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of the situation because he's seeing the glass as way less than half full and i'm seeing it as in fact just as full as could have reasonably been hoped from the start of this. yes, there's not going to be an assault weaponing ban, there's not going to be little bits on magazines, this is going to be an incremental and a step by step approach, what could be achieved this time around was going to be expanded background checks, we'll wait to see sort of how ununiversal it is, how small the exceptions are, what the issue is with keeping the records of that, but i think if you -- look, we started before newtown where you couldn't even say guns in the state of the union, no gun control measure could get through.
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now we're on, i think we have a very significant almost inevitable chance of closing the gun show loophole. if you would have said that six months ago, somebody would have said you can't get that done in washington. as tragic as newtown was, it's going to change the debate. not cataclysmic or total and immediate change, but significant change. >> i suspect what it is, is it's the expansion of the background check system, what we know for certain is that the background system doesn't work. the atrocities that were done at virginia tech were done by criminals that actually passed a background check, the atrocity
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in newtown, connecticut were committed with guns that actually passed a background check. >> i'm wondering can democrats obviously have the numbers to get a vote, but is this going to be at the best-case scenario will be what you consider to be a watered down background check bill, although, incremental step by step in ruth's book and maybe more than could be expected six months ago. >> first of all, this is the window, it's not like this is the first step towards something else, this is the first and only time that we're probably going to have a significant debate on any kind of gun control measures for the foreseeable future. so to the extent that there is something that appears to be something that could at least get a vote and probably get passed, that's nothing to sneeze
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at. how effective will any background check changes be? you heard someone say how it wouldn't have prevented the virginia tech massacres and the newtown tragedy that we're talking about. looking at it from the perspective of gun control advocates, it is relatively insignificant. >> i want to bring in congresswoman diane black, republican from tennessee and member of the house gun committee. i don't know if you had an opportunity just to hear paul ryan say pat toomey -- would you support a deal of background checks. >> i certainly want to look at whatever is put out. i think that always we have got
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to be open. i don't want to do anything that really does hurt the second amendment rights, but there are probably some places where we might be able to look at tightening things up. but however, as has already been said, as we look at these terrible tragedies we must look at what we can do to prevent those, and background checks in those situations wouldn't have really helped. and also the mental health issues and we're not even talking about that right now. >> and the argument has been made, especially by many who support the second amendment strongly, especially people who say they have serious concerns about this, their problem has always been that they want something that they say is going to make a difference for the vast majority of gun crimes which are not mass shootings, so background checks -- they're
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committed by criminal checks, so you know we're missing a big point there, we're missing a lot of areas that we need to look another, we're focusing in on one particular area, abtds i think what we have to do is broaden the scope and look at the total picture here of crimes that are committed throughout our country. we're focusing on things that have broken our hearts and absolutely my heart is broken for what has happened in both of those recent massive crimes. but we have got to look at this as a big picture. >> but you could support background checks? >> i have actually been meeting with a number of people back in my district who are very knowledgeable about these gun shows, those who i can trust own gun shops in my district and talking to them privately about what they think needs to be done and they have given me some suggestions that i think are from what i can understand, this
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group is headed to make sure that in these gun shows we are doing what we need to do to make sure that people who shouldn't have gun don't have them. >> i want to talk about the president's budget officially unveiled today, it includes $1.2 trillion in deficit reduction in particular cuts to social security. do you see this as an improving sign? >> i'm anxious to see what the president has put out there. i think paul ryan said this -- i want to know whether what is in the president's plan actually addresses what we have been looking at for the last four years, high unemployment, rising poverty. these are things that i want to be sure that when we look at whatever he's going to do in his budget plans, it addresses those large issues that we're having right now. obviously if we start looking at
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doing something with entitlement reform, i speak particularly about medicaid, social security but it is the title that we have. but anyway, i want to make sure that we have structural reforms that are going to save these for those who are in it today and for future generations. >> are you encouraged to see that the president has done this within his budget for social security for example? >> the president has said in several speeches that we must do something about these programs that are the drivers of our debt. i want to see something that really does address the fundamental problems with those programs, the structural changes that need to be done, but we have got to begin in conversation, it is a place to begin. >> diane black, it is good to see you, thank you for being on
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the program. >> there was a conference call that -- it's possible in this era of debt ceiling sequester showdowns but also the first time we have had in a long time both the house and the senate and the president with a budget plan out. can there be a deal. >> there can only be a deal that if republicans agree that whatever they -- i suspected that would be more than the president offered, but less than they want. in exchange for that if there can be higher revenues devoted to deficit reduction achieved through tax reform and that's where the big battle is going to be, the republican position has been been there done that, we gave our taxes back at the -- can i say one thing in response
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to ken's really interesting question about how we should look at the gun deal? i think it remains to be seen whether this is to the single opportunity that gun control advocates have to get gun reforms, in which case we could probably lament where they are or if there is a first step and the continuing residence of these sandy hook parents and the responsibility of these people to continue to push for additional steps. >> anyone who's met with them and talked to them. they're not in the mood to back down, it certainly doesn't seem. let me ask you a quick question about the budget, because. >> the congressman's point, they're talking about entitlements, this group of republicans having different at the white house. johnny isaac son says he wants the deficit to be the primary
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conversation. >> i think it will illustrate further that president obama is between a rock and a hard place on that. the senate reaction is expected to be this changed cpi provision that will scale back cost of living adjustments in social security. republicans are saying that's not enough. democrats are saying, whoa, they's way too much. it's tough to find common ground. i'm going to be even more cynical and say there's absolutely no chance for any kind of deal here. the sequester is the new normal and there will be supplemented by these stopgap spending provisions with a continuing resolution, but i don't think we're going to see any kind of grand play on the budget. >> look, people come to washington, really in the hopes of getting something done. there is so much frustration, particularly in the senate about the inability to get stuff done
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and so they can see the path to a pretty big achievement on immigration, they can see the path to a reasonable achievement, ken notwithstanding on gun control. so that is a good conversation to have and a conversation that, you know, i'm going to be not my usual cynical self here that could set the stable for something, not a grand bargain, but some bargain on the budget front. >> we're going to have you both back as this all comes together. we want to update this terrible story, police say 20-year-old dylan quick had fantasies about killing people since elementary school and that he planned a stabbing spree at a texas community college. quick is charged with three counts of aggravated assault. 14 people were stabbed at the campus of lone star college yesterday, most in the face,
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now to the ongoing tale of the tape and the controversy involving senator mitch mcconnell's campaign. the fbi says it is looking into allegations by the senate republican leader that a private campaign meeting was secretly taped and then leaked. >> unbeknownst to us at the time they were bugging our headquarters, quite a nixonian move. >> secret recordings of a february strategy meeting where his staff discussed ashley jones were publi . >> the first person we'll focus on, ashley judge basically refer
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to her as sort of the open poe research. >> this is yet another example of the politics of personal destruction that embody mitch mcconnell. i'm joined now by the reporter who broke this story, david koran an msnbc political analyst. can you tell us someone didn't bug mitch mcconnell's headquarters of his campaign in a nixonian news? >> we were providing the tape mother jones just about a week ago, we had nothing to go wido the making of the tape. but in response to mitch mcconnell's wild charge that this is a nixonian bugging case.
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whatever happened it was not a watergate style break in, bugging operation. >> so it had to be somebody in that meeting. >> i can't get into it beyond that, i just spent a kim of minutes of chuck todd off the air. he has a lot of great theories and i just sat there nodding saying that's interesting. i can't get beyond that, but we're still waiting for mitch mcconnell to release a statement about the substance of the meeting. no matter what he was asked he came back to the same point that it was watergate and he was the victim. but he was dodging if he was right to talk about a potential candidate's past struggles with aggression as part of an ongoing research strategy. >> let me play that part of the recording that we didn't play before that you're referring to
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right now. >> she's clearly, this sound extreme, but she's emotionally unbalanced. >> i will give you that, when he was asked about it, he dodged the answer. you got the tape about a week ago, what was the delay in putting it out there? >> there was no delay in our putting it out there, i had to first authenticate that the tape was real and we had to get the go ahead from our lawyers also. so we did it as fast as we could. but i don't know why the source waited, how long they had the tape, or why they didn't, you know, contact us or somebody else, you know, immediately after the meeting, which was february 2. >> let me ask you a couple of quick questions about what critics have said. >> research happens in every campaign and in fact it really
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is much adieu about nothing? >> i think it is typical research. but for those of us who are citizens who are not so jaded to see how it comes about. you have a senior senator, one of the most influential senators of the century, who are sitting in a meeting going over every piece of dirt they can gather of ashley judd and talking about her religious views and her mental health history. at no point does he say, wait a second u we have a lot to go on here, we have support for obama care, a democratic platform, the fact that she's a liberal. let's leave the other stuff aside. but for other people, they could say oh, ho hum. >> he's got a 54% disapproval rating, other people have argued that what she did was actually give him another target, that
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he's already talking about san francisco liberals, mother jones obviously being in san francisco who at least with a lot of his constituency, because i think in the presidential election, mitt romney ran 25 points better than he did against obama in the rest of the country. so, you know, saying that this is an attack by san francisco liberals is actually helping him and he's raising money off of it, david. >> you know me, chris, i'm a journalist, not a political operative. i don't make calculations on what to cover based on the implications of what the political impact might b i'm sure mitch mcconnell, i think he really is one of the slyest, and i don't think use that in a negative way, politicians. he has tremendous troubles in kentucky with conservatives, so if he can make himself the target of a left wing hit job, it's going to help him get out of this very difficult
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disgraced former congressman wiener wants another chance. >> i have not been honest with myself, my family, my constituents, my friends and supporters and the media. anthony said i have something to tell you, i can't lie to you anymore. it's true, the picture is me, i sent it. yes, these stories about the other women are true. and it was every emotion that one would imagine, rage, anger and shock. when talking about it, we're's eyes teared up. she was devastated, it was brutal, it was completely out of control. there was no one who deserved this less than uma. can he come back?
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>> we have seen anthony wiener take come baby steps back into polit politics. for the first time sishs the scandal, he tweeted last november with a link to superstorm sandy. here's what he told new york magazine, i want to ask people to give me a second chance, i do want to have that conversation with people whom i let down and with people who put their faith in me and who wanted to support me. i do want to say to them, give me another chance. what are the chances they give him another chance. >> well, we'll see, the reality is lots of politicians come back from sex scandal, from political scandal in general. i think it's going to depend on how much the new york people
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loved in the in the first place. at the time he was considered the front-runner for mayor so it will be interesting to see if he can get back into folks' good graces, i think he's doing the right thing by starting off apologizing and humanizing himself and making himself are little more likable than he was when the scandal broke. >> if we talked about this research, he spent $100,000 on a poll that suggested that voters are willing to give him a second chan chance. >> i do a lot of crisis management of political figures, professional athletes and entertainers. on the front end he did everything wrong. he did the one thing that you can never do and that's lie. since then he has done the right thing.
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i think he can come back, but he has to give it some time. if he does run for mayor, it's too soon for it. >> was it a sex scandal without any sex? >> it's not just that the scandal was, it was that he kept lying about it and trying to cover it up. >> he did actually lie to his wife, to everybody else and while there isn't a john edwards aspect to this, there is an ick factor or whatever you want to call it to these twister photogratwister -- twitter photographs. so which he said this, if it wasn't 2011 and it didn't exist, it's not like i was going out and cruising bars or something like that it was just that technology made it possible and it was stupid of me to do stupid
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things. >> he tried to invoke sympathy. he says i'm working on this in therapy and i'm working on the fact that there was a time in my life that i needed people to tell me that i was great, and that's what i was doing on twitter, i was baiting those responses. remember that he also has the ear of some really great mentors who have been through this before, the clintons, i would imagine that they are helping him think about how he needs to connect with the public, how he needs to connect with himself and really consider what this has done to his family and with regard to his political chances. >> we also know from this article that they had conversations about it and, you know, appropriately so, she wasn't going to get into the details of them, john, but how much do you think huma aberdeen
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plays into this? the apparent indications that she does want him to run. how much does how she is a part of any campaign play into his success. >> i think that is part of it. i think people will be watching and to see signals from her that she has forgiven him, more than just a rhetoric, is she going to be out campaigning? people will watch that relationship, but with that said, i think they're both going to find it's too soon, this is all people are going to talk about. and $4.5 million is only about three weeks of television in new york. i think he's making a big mistake, it will be a second big mistake if he tries to run. checking the news feed this morning. a 6-year-old new jersey boy shot in the head by his 4-year-old neighbor has now died. brandon holt and his friends were reportedly playing pretend shooting in the yard when the
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friend went back into his house and came back with a .22 caliber rifle. prosecutors are considering whether to file charges against his parents. a florida couple accused of kidnapping their two young sons and fleeing by boat to cuba. joshua and sharon hagen will appear in court tomorrow. and carol the elephant is recovering today after being shot in the neck outside the bank corp south reign arena in tupelo, mississippi. the elephant was caught in the gun fire of a drive by shooting. police are still looking for the gunmen. there are some encouraging signs for job seekers, cnbc's
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mandy drury is here. >> 3.9 million jobs posted in february, but here's the catch. even though openings have surged 11% over the past year, the number of people hired has actually declined. h huh, you say? starving firms say let's be honest, a little bit iffy economy many businesses just don't really want to commit to new hires and that is behind that trend. >> and taco bell meantime they have a huge hit with those doritos locos tacos so now doritos hopes it's going to have a new hit. >> i love those locos tacos.
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and apparently the next phase here is going to be the dlt tortilla chip. there's going to be two varieties. to how many locos tacos were sold last year? >> how many. >> 375 million, that is roughly 1 million a day. a day. >> and 13,000 jobs created as a result of it. that is unbelievable. and it's making me hungry. >> creating jobs and making people happy at the same time. tax filing deadline just five days away, have you done yours yet? according to usa today, the irs has gotten 88 million individual returns so far. they have processed 85 million, 72 million people are getting refund, on average of $290, at this point the irs website has
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ann grace marquez green, age six, her mother melda and her foarnlg jimmy are here today. dylan we don't do something right now. it's going to happen again. >> but really, mr. president, it's happening every day. >> and this country has just gotten so callously used to gun violence, it's just rain drops, it's just background noise. meantime another big issue, immigration, and the report says that the draft bill for immigration reform could be released as early as tomorrow. aides do say, though, the process of debating details in the bill will start a few more
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weeks into what they have anticipated. the news comes as tens of thousands are expected to lobby for immigration reform. what are you hearing about this draft bill or on the senate side? >> well, first of all, we are so excited that tens of thousands of people from across the country, great, honest, would be americans that want more than anything else to pay taxes and be part of our great country are here and we are urging them to tweet out the time is now. we are optimistic with the gang of 8 working tot. we have a working group here as well. for the first time since i've been in congress, i'm excited about the real opportunity to pass immigration reform. >> the house is also discussing
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immigration reforms, visaings for low skilled workers and restrictions on companies that hire skilled workers. >> we had a break through agreement last week specifically about low skill workers, we're very excited about that about business and labor, support of the bill is critical. this bill is in the interest of every american, whether you're a union member, whether you're a small business owner, whether you work for a big company, we're talking about making our country stronger, we're talking about securing our borders and we're making sure we have a pathway to citizenship with so many would be americans who are here in washington with us today. >> in the meantime, you have these outside conservative groups who are prepared to use the price tag of immigration reform that are using the bill to overhaul immigration. they're trying to kill the bill over what has been a lot of anxiety over budget cuts.
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how concerned are you about the cost of reform and what do you say who voters who may be concerned and what do you say to listening to these advertisements for conservative groups. >> look, by expanding the tax base, when else would we have tens of thousands of people coming to washington saying we want to pay taxes, 10 million people, do they pay taxes today? some do, some don't. if we have a pathway to citizenship, we will have tens of thousands of people who pay taxes. >> your state of colorado has legalized the recreational use of marijuana, you have been advocating taxing pot, it's just going to raise the price, it's going to drive users back to illegal dealers and i have read
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analysis that says you don't make that much money. >> we're talking over 10 years, $100 billion. it prevent us us from having to cut programs that matter to people. as long as the tax is in the 15% to 25% range, it will still be less expensive than the black market. >> is there something about what oosz going on in colorado that will give you pause? >> with full regulated sale, we're going to take the money out of the hands of drug dealers and criminal cartels and put it in the hands of legitimate business people and making sure there's a public benefit as well. today's tweet of the day comes from nbc news presidential historian michael beschloss, with a bit of baseball history.
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down, and this one has the technology in silicon valley that's really helping this cause. >> all coming together in a new way, 140 characters could save a human life. that's because sex and labor trades can rarely talk with outsiders without getting beaten. but they usually have a cell phone system. victims can quietly text befree to get some help. and the backers of such tools are charities, google announcing a $3 million investment yesterday to help streamline a fractured response system. there are over 200 response vict victims. >> imagine a world where we have the data at our fingertips to
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know where trafficking is happening and how and where to respond to it. >> we began to tell her about resources in the area, we can map out where she is, we can immediately create a response. >> and they can build models real time based on locations and seasons of the year. they can be a step ahead of traffickers now. technology has also been used to lower the demand for slaves. there's an app at the u.s. state department to show you how many slaves you own by what you buy. whether you own or rent, what's in your medicine cabinet, it -- the average app user from the u.s. and canada owned the most slaves with 41 in the u.s. and canada, germany and brazil. for now traffickers actually lead the race in leveraging technology.
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>> it is amazing what technology can do and this is an important step forward. thank you so much, richard. that's going to wrap up this our of jansing and company. thomas roberts is next. you got a lot going on in your hour, my friend. >> first off the president's live remarks any minute now to reveal his new budget plan. senators joe manchin and pat toomey announcing their by partisan deal in background checks for guns. we're also going to speak with the daughter of newtown's late principal who has been talking to senators and taking them to task for not calling her back online. also a massive immigration rally is being planned today as part of the immigration 8 get closer to a deem. a lot going on, you can't afford
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>> this budget simply does not represent some grand pivot from the left to center. it's really just a pivot from left to left. i mean, if these reports we're seeing are correct. why don't we find the common ground that we do have and move on them. the president got his tax hikes in january and we don't need to be raising taxes on the american people. >> here's the president's opening officer, $3.7 trillion in spending, $1.8 trillion in saving. senators pat toomey and joe manchin will -- we start with the president from the rose garden on his unveiling of the budget. let's listen in. >> good morning, everybody. please, please have a seat.

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